That’s a good question. I dunno if there is a good way of moving bulk beer under duty suspense between sites? Apart from setting up your main site as a 3rd party packager. But then you’d have to receive the (packaged) product back to the site that brewed it, I think? (and then “move” it to where it really is, if it’s staying at your main site)
The other option, I suppose, is to make your transport tank a “really big container”, set up a (part-filled ?) product… rack to that, move it to main site where you rack the final products out of that container.
Hi Brett, Thanks for reaching out! If you are transferring to another production site for packaging, you could create a container type representing the capacity of the vessel holding the beer; for example, you could create an ‘Arlington’ container type. You could then create a ‘part-filled’ product that uses this container type and rack the batch into this product. You will then be able to complete a ‘stock transfer order’ and deliver this to the other production site, where you will then be able to package from the container by following this guide: How do I rack directly from a container into another container, such as a minicask, keg or bottle? .
It sounds like this will handle the scenario where you transfer to another site for packaging; however, there isn’t currently the functionality to transfer the contents into another vessel if this is being transferred into a vessel at the other site. It sounds like this will be the feature request you need for this: Empty containers back into a vessel/tank (e.g. to allow blending two different packaged products to make a new beer) . It would be great if you could add your vote to this!
If you need to transfer the batch into a vessel held at a different site, then there is a bit of a workaround for this rather than a dedicated feature. You could create a vessel in the the Production section of Breww that is being used to transport the beer between sites; for example, an Arlington vessel. After this, you could then transfer the batch into the Arlington. If you then select to edit the vessel and change the site of the vessel. This will show the Arlington at the other site, where you can then transfer out the batch. As this is a workaround, this transfer wouldn’t be represented in your duty return. Let me know if you need anything else. Cheers!
I wondered about editing a vessel’s site/location. Kludgy a.f. Made me feel dirty.
I suspect the cleanest way of doing it, for this application, would be the off-site packaging route, if we could receive products to a site other than the origin. That has been raised before:
Hi Ben, thank you for your response.
I like the option of changing location of the vessel because then I can have a clear record of the next tanks and CIPs and equipment used.
But when you say this type of “transfer wouldn’t be represented in your duty return.” Does that mean that the packaged beer will not be represented on the duty return or just the duty suspended movement?
Duty and on its intricacies is not a strong point of mine, so a bit of clarification on that part of the comment would be ace before I have a go at it.
Hi Brett, Thanks for your reply. Any movements will not be considered; however, once the beer has been packaged, then the duty mechanism will behave as usual. Cheers!
The movement wouldn’t show up
(in “How many litres of pure alcohol were delivered duty suspended to other UK registered premises and excise warehouses”? / the “received” counterpart - or the equivalent in your tax regime )
You’d potentially have to explain to a visiting excise officer where t.f. that vessel and its contents have gone / come from, and why you haven’t recorded it. Rather you than me.
It’s very much a “cunning plan”. Probably best not, eh?